The following is an excerpt from DEFECTED EPISODE 27, beginning at 1.17.12 & ending at 2.16.30. Enjoy.
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.17.14
So, um, why don't you open with your new betting odds.
JUST HUMAN: 1.17.18
I am 117 percent on board with Ron DeSantis being kayfage.
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.17.24
Oh my goodness. That's a high percentage.
JUST HUMAN: 1.17.27
I've gone back & forth, & I've been making a joke about it for a few months, because I've been going back & forth. Um, it's good kayfabe, I mean, that's what it's supposed to do, if it was obvious that it was kayfabe, then it wouldn't work. Um, but, a few things have really tipped me over into, yeah, this is totally kayfabe. And, um, there's a whole bunch of 'em, I'm not gonna remember them all. But, the um…some of the things I was really thinking about this weekend, & this past week…& um… I figured out that I could make a case for it with face value…just face value, what's going on, I could make a case for it.
I could make a case for it with deductive reasoning, based on strategy, that it doesn't make sense for Ron to do what he's doing.
Um, & then Ron's own self interest…& then, I could also use the drops to make the case.
And then, I could also use the hints that Trump is dropping, to make the case that it's kayfabe.
And then, I could also use net effects. What is the net effect, well…
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.18.33
That's my favorite. That's gimmick infringement.
JUST HUMAN: 1.33.35
All these people (I'm playing Bingo, too!) all these people are jumping into the Trump quicksand, & Ron DeSantis is leading them there. I think Ron DeSantis IS the quicksand. (chuckles) I mean, like…
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.18.49
QuickSantis…?
JUST HUMAN: 1.18.50
QuickSantis! Yeah!
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.18.52
I almost named the article that, but I decided not to. It would be too Jon Herald-ish of a title.
JUST HUMAN: 1.18.58
So, that's where I'm at on it. I think it makes the most sense. And, um…& that makes it a lot of fun.
So, back up… Face value indicators - face value indicators, to me, are that Trump posed the question, "Who will step into the quicksand?" And, he did that right before all of this…right before he started attacking Ron. And, um…I think that was Trump having a giggle, like, 'I'm about to start somethin…we're about to go on a ride together…'
And, um…right after that, he started attacking DeSantis, & when he did that, he cast DeSantis as a character.
And, I was telling Chris Paul this in a chat the other day, that that's one of the kayfabe tells I look for to prevent me from just assigning kayfabe as just this blanket explanation I use for everybody.
I sometimes get accused of just thinking everything is kayfabe. I don't. I just think certain things are kayfabe, & um, one of the tells for me is that Trump casts that person as a character. He uses his language, & he targets them, & he gives them nicknames…he really casts them as a character in a play, or a story. And, he did that with Ron, all of a sudden, out of nowhere. And, he's kept it up, & he's…Ron has now taken on these attributes that conflict with what we all thought about Ron a year ago. And, that is a big kayfabe tell to me. He does, Trump does that to a number of people who were in his administration. He'll talk great about them for a little while, & then, all of a sudden, he'll give them a nickname, & start talking negatively about them.
And, he sets them up as this character, & at the same time, he sets them up as bait.
Ron DeSantis became Trump's bait for the GOP's swamp. They couldn't resist it. They saw Trump attacking DeSantis, & they thought, "Ooo! He's scared of him! Let's support DeSantis!" They could not resist it.
Trump did the exact. same. thing. in 2020 when he started saying that he was scared of Biden. And, he started…he made the Democrats…& made isn't the right word…he influenced the Democrats into selecting Joe Biden as their guy.
And, it worked out so great, because, Joe Biden is who Trump wanted in the White House in the first place. He knew they were going to steal it. But, he also knew that he had the goods on the Biden crime family. And, so, he was fine with Biden running. That's what he wanted. And, he knew that Biden would be the person they would have to cheat the most to win.
So, he knew that in choosing Biden, they would have to do more work to get him elected, & they would have to steal so many votes, it would expose the steal to soooo many people, & they would make sooo many mistakes. And, that's, I mean, Trump… That's why Trump went…I mean, he went on that…all these tours, he was doing all this stuff, to try & get as many MAGA folks to turn out as possible, to make it where the Democrats had to steal as many votes as they possibly could. And, they did ridiculous things that exposed the cheating.
Um…I think it's the same thing with DeSantis.
Um…another reason for it is that, um…forgive me, I'm just gonna go down the list of reasons why I think it's kayfabe. Another reason I think it's kayfabe, is because it makes no sense from Ron's perspective. Ron just threw away a golden career.
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.22.50
Unless he's literally being threatened by, like, shadowy figures, it makes no sense, from a selfish perspective.
JUST HUMAN: 1.23.01
Yeah, his self interest. It's completely against his self interest. Ron could have finished out his term as governor -- actually, he may not even finish.
He could have done half another term, or like half of this term, & then been chosen as Trump's AG. Or, something. Like somebody in Trump's Cabinet, Economic Advisor, or, I don't know, he could have just continued doing what he was doing in Florida, & then Trump could have tapped him to be part of his Administration, & in doing so, would have anointed him, with a solid chance, I mean, a shoe in to be the nominee in 2028. I mean, Ron DeSantis could have continued As. Is. & he could have been the nominee in 2028.
Um…but, nope…it makes no sense…& I don't think Ron is dumb. I don't think that he is so dumb that he doesn't see that. I mean, I don't think you can make an argument that Ron, um, had a bad understanding of the battlefield in front of him. I think he very much understood it, & has chosen to do something…he's not just throwing away his career, he has pissed off his constituents in Florida.
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.24.09
Yeah, his own Florida -- Florida is the strongest Trump base in -- I think literally -- Florida is the strongest Trump base in the United States.
JUST HUMAN: 1.24.17
Yes. And, he's turned…like, ya know, Ron isn't coming in being able to make the argument, 'Well, ya know, I have Florida sown up' -- ya know, he just, he just absolutely ticked off his own people. And, I've got…I've seen so many messages from people in Florida over the past six months, who say, 'If Ron runs, I am done with him. I am NOT gonna vote for him.'
Because, this was an issue in the last election. They didn't want Ron to win governorship, & then run for President. And, Ron was asked, 'If you win this governorship, you're not gonna turn up & run for President in 2024, right…???' And, he was…like this (wishy-washy), & it was making people upset.
Um, so you can make it from that perspective.
And then, another one is the drops. Um, I was shown this by someone on Twitter, that, their name is, ah…actually, I want to make sure I give them the right credit -- just a moment…just a moment -- I want to give them the credit they deserve for this find, here -- I don't usually pull things up, but, this one, I think I should pull up…
So, the first thing to pull up…right here…
So, @Back4TheStorm on Twitter…the account @Back4TheStorm on Twitter, Debbie PatriQt, she found this, & shared it, & I got tagged in it, & saw it, & this really, um…got into my head.
This is from drop #1387, this document right here. And, I'll show you that drop in a minute, but it's gonna be easier for you to see this on screen if I use this.
So, this document is inside that drop, & what it says, in this first paragraph…this is Q's highlights, here, this isn't what she did, Q boxed this in in green, & it says, "We write to request that you exercise your authority as President of the United States to instruct Attorney General Jeff Sessions to immediately produce all documents requested by Congress relating to our investigation of certain prosecutorial & investigative decisions made by the Department of Justice & FBI in 2016 & 2017."
From May 15th, 2018, three members of Congress request DJT use his powers to release the document.
Signed here, & underlines, is Ron DeSantis.
It's Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan, & Ron DeSantis. And, I do not think that that is insignificant.
I'm gonna show you guys in the drop something real quick…I'll show you the drop that it's in, it's drop #1387 if you guys wanna look for yourselves…it's right there, so, really good find by her, to be able to notice that, or remember it, & pull that out.
This is what Q put in there. And, this drop, at the bottom says,
""FREEDOM" Caucus.
2015.
Coincidence?
Q"
And, I don't mean to take this, & present it to you as, 'Oh, well, this is proof positive, absolutely', that Ron is one hundred percent a patriot, it's in the drops, the drops confirm kayfabe.
I'm not saying that. But, I am saying this is a big…I think this is a significant find to put on that side of the scale.
So, if I'm stacking things up on a scale, & I take things like, ok, here's the evidence that it's literal, & there is no kayfabe, put 'em on that side. And, I take these other things, & I'm gonna put 'em on the other side of the scale that's for kayfabe, I think this is a weighty one to put on the side of the scale for kayfabe. I think this is significant, especially it being Jim Jordon, AND Mark Meadows, & Ron Desantis.
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.28.19
I was gonna say, that's strong company to be in, when it comes to MAGA.
JUST HUMAN: 1.28.26
And, then it's a letter to Jeff Sessions, like…it's…this is power…I mean, it's a letter to Donald Trump, asking him to exercise his power…um, to get these documents related to SpyGate/RussiaGate…I think this is significant.
Um, alright, lemme pull that…
And, there's a ton more things with Ron. There's been several Truths that Trump has done, where…there was one where it said, "fake fight", he retruthed someone that described what was going on with Ron as a fake fight to expose Con, Inc.
And, then he did something else, was it tonight, where he said…I think you mentioned it…about exposing Con, Inc. because of Ron…um…
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.29.11
The establishment
JUST HUMAN: 1.29.12
Exposing the establishment, sorry.
So, it makes more sense to me, adding those things up, & a ton of other things, it just makes more sense to me, that there's coordination between Trump &, um…& Ron.
I think there's coordination with Elon, too. I think that…not saying that the Spaces glitched on purpose, but, I think that Elon would be aware of what his system could handle, & I think that, um…like, he made some comment about how, "we're moving more server nodes over to help with the Spaces & things, & he made some com…, some tweet like that…I don't think it works like that, Elon…(chuckles)
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.29.61
I said on that live stream, like, I work in that world. Like, you know, I work in a world regarding servers, & things like that -- that is not a thing -- like, you not…it's not Star Trek the Next Generation, where you're like, 'Allocate 30% more servers!', like, 'Pick up these servers, & put 'em over here!' Like, it's not real, there are things you can do, you can allocate server power, you can reallocate server space, but, not in the way, not in an instance like that, that's not the way it works, so…
They had the overhead, there, to handle that. It's literally the biggest communications platform on the planet…um, with the most infrastructure. So, didn't really make sense.
JUST HUMAN: 1.30.44
Oh, man, I have another…this is gonna trigger some people…
Alright, well, my last point on the Elon thing that I was gonna go into is that, Elon then made a post on Twitter, saying, 'This is the biggest…whatever…this is the biggest night of donations for a Presidential campaign ever, like this is the most money any Presidential candidate has raised on the night of their announcement', which was like $8.5 million.
And, Twitter Notes fact checked Elon, & showed, that, no, it was actually Donald Trump, & he made over $20 million dollars in a single night.
I don't believe that Elon made that mistake. I think that Elon put that out there, on purpose, so that Twitter Notes would correct him. I really do. I think that Elon is a Trump guy, & I think that Peter Thiel is a Trump guy…I think that these are tech oligarchs who are on Trump's side. And, um, that stood out to me. I think that Elon -- I'm not saying that Elon sabotaged DeSantis' announcement -- but, I think it's all orchestrated, guys.
And, then, there's another thing…
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.31.55
I would go so far as to say that, probably.
JUST HUMAN: 1.31.57
Now, there's another thing…people are gonna say…they're gonna reeeeeee…okay, some of y'all are gonna reeeeee…just prepare for yourselves…
Donald Trump, on June 7th, 2017, "I'll be nominating Christopher Wray, a man of impeccable credentials, to be the new Director of the FBI. Details to follow."
Ron Desantis: "Christopher Wray is talented, capable & highly respected. POTUS has made an inspired choice & I look forward to working with Director Wray."
I still trust Wray.
(*Editors Note: I do, too. Because Q said to -- 3 times. In drops #433, #787, & again in #1122.)
(Resuming…)
Wray was a member of "The Band", & um…I think this is another good sign. I think this is, it's a small one, I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight into it, but, I put some weight into this one. Shout out to MeanJean1 for showing this drop, er, this Tweet to me.
Um, I just can't…um, the more I look, the more reasons I find to think there's coordination, here. And, I also think it just makes more sense. Just plainly, flatly, results wise, it makes more sense to me that this is kayfabe, & knowing that it's kayfabe, or seeing it as such, makes it that much more enjoyable to me. I just think it's so much fun. When I see Trump say some things about DeSantis, & like, bash him, I think it's hilarious.
Right now, Trump has been running around saying, "ROB", instead of Ron. I'm gonna pull…lemme pull this one up…
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.33.32
I saw people saying, yes, you can reallocate virtual servers, especially if they're all AWS servers from Amazon. Um, my point is that I think they have more than enough overhead on Twitter, on the way Twitter servers are allocated, you've literally got a platform that was designed around…mass news deployments can hit at any moment. The Irish Spring, something like that can hit…um, I just don't…the way that Elon was talking about it, the way they switched from one account to another account…it seemed strange to me. It's possible that that was all totally on the level conversation, but, if they did need to migrate servers, or reallocate servers, then, to me, what it maps more onto is the idea that Elon throttled their overhead, on the first…on the first instance.
So, I just don't feel like Elon was caught flat footed, with a server issue there. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
JUST HUMAN: 1.34.31
Yeah…um…
And, then, here, this Truth, Trump did this today. It says,
"Ron DeSanctimonious"
-- he starts out & calls him Ron --
"Ron DeSanctimonious just fired, like on “The Apprentice,”
-- hey, guys, The Apprentice was Trump's show, where he was auditioning to be President. Like, that's what that show was, was to introduce Trump to the Nation as a possible President, & when he ran, he said, 'I'm gonna fire all these people', like he was seeding all these ideas.
"his friend and top campaign official, Phil Cox, because his campaign is a complete disaster, and 2028 is looking really bad."
-- Meaning Ron could've run in 2028, but, it's lookin' bad for him, now.
"His campaign manager, who so deftly handled the Ted Cruz campaign against me, wanted to work for me, but was turned down - a “money grubber”"
(quote, unquote)
"like no other, and won’t quit until he’s got every last penny. Now “Rob”
(in quotes)
"must change the theme of his campaign from NEVER BACK DOWN to WINNING ISN’T EVERYTHING!"
Now, this is clever Trump right here. This is funny. It's a nice jab, right here, this last sentence. But, he's callin' him Rob, & I just can't help but think that he's calling him Rob because DeSantis is robbing the GOP donor class. Like, he's, in effect, robbing them. And, with him…he's…it's the quicksand, guys, it's the quicksand.
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.35.58
I mean, "The Apprentice", even before the Rob reference to me, "The Apprentice" as referenced there in quotes is the tell.
JUST HUMAN: (Simultaniously)
The tell.
BURNING BRIGHT:
I mean, it's a reality show. (chuckles)
JUST HUMAN: Cross talk.
Yes.
BURNING BRIGHT:
It's a reality show in which Donald Trump cast & fired everybody on that show…I mean…
JUST HUMAN: Cross talk.
Yes.
BURNING BRIGHT:
I mean, you know, talk about central casting…the people pose (?)…this certainly maps onto that.
There's some things that you run down that list, like, if I'm just trying to be fair, I can play devil's advocate on something like the Elon deployment, where I can say, um, I don't…I think it's difficult to say that Elon could not have avoided the technical difficulties, there…that sentence was horrible, but, what I said a few minutes ago I believe. I do not believe that Elon was caught flat footed. I believe that Elon had the server capacity, blah, blah, blah…
But, if I want to play the game of Elon is not a white hat, if I wanna say, Elon's a black hat, AND, he intentionally screwed up that intro, I can map that & say, they wanted the headlines out of that to be, "Ron DeSantis' announcement broke Twitter." Which, in ConInc, those were the headlines. Those were the headlines in one little subset of the infowar, of the DeSantis people. The ones who've been on him really hard, the ones who are paid by him. Um, they did run those headlines. Elon even gave them the quote, which is something I noticed during the stream, with Chris & Jon. He literally said, twice, "I think you broke Twitter, Ron." So, it's like, I think he was seeding headlines out, right… I think Elon's a white hat because of the DoD contract -- I can't get around that, there's just no…unless that's a lie, which, it isn't, um, I can't get around that. It's sorta the thing of…it's sorta like Jon appeal to the Devolution theory, the Continuity of Government theory after the 2020 election.
Sometimes Jon just goes reductive enough to say, 'If you don't believe that a Continuity of Government plan was enacted, then you are saying, that Donald Trump told you the election was being stolen, by foreign interference, in a United States election, & he let it happen, & he walked away. Knowing, that if that happened, it is a fact, it is a fact, that if that happened, there is zero chance that we will ever get back in -- zero.
Because, the people that we let take control, we let them take control, with Donald Trump telling us, they were doing so by cheating, & they are now the people setting the very policies that will keep them in place.
Therefore, it is not possible, to me, that that was not enacted, & the brilliance of Jon's research was that we know for a fact -- we do not know for a fact that Devolution was enacted -- we do not know that.
We do know that it would have been legal & Constitutional, & that Donald Trump was considering it, & had Executive Orders written specifically with that in mind…as a possibility, right…so…
JUST HUMAN: 1.39.26
Yep.
We know…we know that right before Trump left office, he suddenly rearranged personnel in DoD & other agencies, & then passed all these cha…passed all these changes to Continuity of Government orders & plans, & did all of this stuff, as if he were about to declare that we were in a state of CoG -- if he didn't actually declare that we were in a state of CoG, then, why did he do all that? Why did he engage in all that?
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.39.54
Well, & also, I think of this every Wednesday night, when the brilliant intro to the Devolution Power Hour plays.
Um…Christopher C. Miller...how long was he Secretary of Defense, was it 20 something days? or 30 something days?
JUST HUMAN: 1.40.06
Yes. Yeah, like 30 days.
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.40.09
So, in 30 days…according to the surface level narrative, he helped lead some of the most complex military operations of all time…?
JUST HUMAN: 1.40.21
AND…he went on a worldwide trip to visit every combatant commander.
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.40.29
Yeah. Most complex handoff of administration…like, anyway, that's a whole devolution aside, but, but, my point was more, bringing that logic into the Elon sorta thing, is to say that, ah, um, it's very difficult to get around the DoD contract if you're trying to cast him as a deep state asset…it just can't get around that.
JUST HUMAN: 1.40.52
You don't even have to go…I don't even think you have to go to that, because, you can just look at, well then, why did he buy Twitter?
If Elon's a bad guy, why did he buy Twitter, instead of just letting it continue to be what it was?
Why did he engage in this whole effort to do a hostile takeover of Twitter, & then, start airing it's dirty laundry by feeding it to several different journalists to let them write about it, so that those files could be made public, & be used in Congressional hearings, by the Oversight Committee, & the Judiciary Committee?
I mean, if Elon's a bad guy, he's doing a terrible job at being a bad guy, because he keeps on exposing the deep state, & their influence in Twitter, which is the number one communication device the deep state uses, or did use.
So, like Elon, even aside from the DoD contract, Elon's actions in the past 6…in the past year, don't make any sense from a bad guy perspective, unless you want to fault him for wearing a Halloween costume. And, if that's your level of evidence against Elon, I mean, that's pretty weak sauce. He wore a costume on Halloween.
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.41.55
So, what's interesting, too, about this, um, relating it back to the DeSantis, specifically, um, even getting away from the announcement, ah, on Twitter Spaces, ah, going back to that culture war appeal, 'cause I think that's like, DeSantis' base - that's who the establishment believes is DeSantis' base.
Now, I can't sit here & even say that those YouTube guys that I like, ah, the ones that I think are legit, the ones that I don't think are Con, Inc….they like Ron DeSantis, but I don't think…I'm not necessarily of the opinion that they would vote for him over Donald Trump. I mean, they just like him.
Um, so…but, what's interesting with that whole culture wars sphere, is, you know who else they love, besides Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis…? Elon Musk.
And, I think that besides the announcement itself, it's really interesting to me, that Elon Musk & Ron…is being conflated, or sort of associated with Ron DeSantis directly, in this deployment. I mean, he certainly helped him to launch the deployment, & um, that's interesting. When you map him like we just…like we're talking about as an asset, as an asset of patriots, ah, it's worth…it's worth noting that in reference to that he's the one launching the DeSantis campaign. Ah, but, it's also worth noting what the, ah, sorta, cultural, the social power of Elon Musk, what he represents in the American zeitgeist right now. Especially to sort of um…not just right wing, but, ah, younger, millennial, gen z, independents, ah, even left leaning people -- Elon is an extraordinarily powerful cultural figure, & to have him, um cor…seen as coordinating with DeSantis, it does mean something, but it just gives me, again, confidence that, ultimately, this maps more onto the kayfabe idea, this maps more onto a coordinated deployment. Um…unless we really think that they think that delaying a Twitter Spaces call for 21 minutes was gonna completely destroy a DeSantis campaign, which I don't think it would.
JUST HUMAN: 1.44.05
Now, somebody in chat just reminded me of something that…something else that is a kayfabe tell, in my opinion…hold on just a moment (*searching…)…where is…I gotta get Ron DeSantis…no, he's changed it back, hasn't he…did he take the alligator off of his profile?
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.44.29
Oh, I don't know.
Just looking…somebody's posting…live diggin', we were live diggin' the other night…
JUST HUMAN: 1.44.40
Yeah, it looks like he did. He took that, he took that ali…you saw that, right? You saw the alligator that was on his profile?
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.44.45
Yes.
JUST HUMAN: 1.44.53
I was looking to see if it was in his media…see if, ah…he saved it, so I could prove it…unless that was fake…unless that alligator thing was fake, but, I don't think it was.
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.45.09
Just saw somebody in chat had brought up Q drop 4329, um…it's about Covid-19, but, there is a [B] in brackets, & that drop, there's also an [A] in brackets
JUST HUMAN: 1.45.34
Alright, I…I won't bring it up…I was gonna make the point…what I thought when I saw the gator, that was on his background profile pic…unless it was fake, & he never did change it. I don't see it on either one of his social…his Twitter accounts.
But, ah, when I saw that gator, on election night, it was just like, black, & it just had this like whitesh gray outline of an alligator in the water. I thought of it as, oh, Ron is the alligator, in the swamp, & he's inviting all the GOP establishment to come into his swamp. And, he's…& that's what that…that's what that means, why he changed to that…
I thought…I took it as a hint…um…
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.46.14
Yeah, some people were taking as, oh, he's saying he is a swamp creature, but, yeah, you can easily perverse that & say, no, he's the thing that hunts swamp creatures.
JUST HUMAN: 1.46.24
That's how I took it. Now, I don't see it…I thought that I would see it on his Twitter…it was the Ron DeSantis profile that had it, but, he's changed it now, so, either…well, either he did change it, or, that was fake, & it got spread around, & it never existed. So…
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.46.41
The position that he was in, maybe we're over analyzing, but, that's what we do. But, just my gut…it's just like you say, your gut reaction, um, when I saw that, I was thinking of the way that alligators surface, & like I was thinking of surfacing…the idea of a deployment surfacing. So, it's like, it's kinda like a submarine, right, like, running red, & then it's like surfacing, so, it's kind of…besides the fact that it's a gator in a swamp, um…it was making me think, like, you don't gators are there until they surface.
And, it made me think of ah…wow, he's in the swamp, & he's been in there for awhile, & now he's surfaced.
So, you could map that either way, & say, he's telling us who he is, but it's like, well, I don't think that the swamp creature is gonna tell you, Hey, I've actually been a subversive alligator this whole time, & I'm here to destroy the MAGA movement.
Um, it felt more…when you look at that…& I know that, ah…I know that sometimes they do, sort of mock us…I think the deep state does mock us. I see less of that, these days, in my opinion, because I think that they're a little nervous these days.
But, if that gator…no matter which way you map it…here's how I'll frame it…
No matter which way you map that gator image, of he's telling you he's a swamp creature, or he's telling you that he's double agent, going against the swamp…it was a troll.
Everybody could probably agree that, him doing that…it's a weird image…ah, that he knows what people are going to take from that. So, to me, it was a troll, &, the other person that we see troll a lot, is Donald Trump, himself.
We see him post those kind of comms, & sort of as, what I took it as was a taunt.
Um…people could say he was taunting the Trump movement, but, it felt to me a little bit like taunting the other side, of going, I've been in here with you, I've been in here with you the whole time.
JUST HUMAN: 1.48.49
Yeah, with the plausible deniability of gators being a creature in Florida, & sports mascot…all these things I see chat mentioning, you're all right to mention those things, it gives him plausible deniability. And, ah…you could just say, there's that…
And, then it's gone real quickly after. I don't think it had anything to do with those swamp tease, I think it was a comm…um, because…it's gone…actually, it being gone, now, even makes it seem like more of a comm to me.
Assuming it wasn't fake. I mean, since I didn't see it myself on his Twitter account, I have to keep it open…the possibility that someone photo shopped it just got spread around. So, there…there is that possibility.
Um, I see BusterLoose says they posted in reply to me…um…
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.49.37
Did you, ahhh…did you go through your whole list?
JUST HUMAN: 1.49.40
My whole list of what?
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.49.42
Of how…
JUST HUMAN: 1.49.43
All the reasons I think it's kayfabe?
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.49.45
Yes. I think you did. I was just gonna say, ah…
JUST HUMAN: 1.49.46
I think so. This is what it looks like…
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.49.52
I was just gonna say, ah…one thing for me, & I sort of…if I have to lean, I lean kayfabe, as well…um…
The most interesting data point, to me…or, or, sorta deployment to me, with this whole thing, oddly enough, is not from right now, it's not from the current story. It's from the midterms. I wrote about that…I keep going back to the midterms.
Admittedly, you could map my take either onto kayfabe, or it's opposite, which, I can explain.
But, the most interesting data point to me…you mentioned that Donald Trump…ah…kinda has gotten into the pock…he's been hammering DeSantis in recent months. He kinda went hot, I don't remember exactly when he did, which month that was, that he just opened up on him, but, it was within the last few months, & we definitely agree, there, right, he was doing that for a reason, he was trying…he was either trying to provoke an organic reaction, or, he was playing into this story, either way, he's playing into the story. That's where we can get into the net effects section.
I go before that. 2022, in November, on the eve of the midterms, I'd written an article that week, titled, "The Wolves Among Us".
And, it was all about my views on Con, Inc., & things like that, but, it was related to Donald Trump's announcement of his candidacy for 2024, &, at that time -- we've talked about this on some shows -- people that we consider Con, Inc., or establishment, or sorta GOP, whatever, seemed to be weaponized against Trump. The media establishment, on both sides, went all in, around November 7th, November 8th.
They were saying, This is a premature move, they kept using the term "premature", they were using terms like, "reactive", um…"out of control", "chaotic", to describe Donald Trump announcing his candidacy.
What was also interesting, is that at the time, I did agree with them, not with that, but I did say, Donald Trump's demeanor, when he announced his candidacy, was very muted, &, almost somber, if you remember. It was not the Trump that we are used to. It didn't feel like the victorious, or confident, strong Trump.
Um, at the time, though, many of us -- this is not revisionist history -- many of us are immortalized at the time, saying, in writing, this is bait. This is absolutely bait. And then, it was 10 days later, 10 days after Trump announced his candidacy, & all the media on both sides, went after him for it, Elon Musk reactivated his Twitter account…the night before that -- it was a Friday night, I believe -- the night before that, Donald Trump held a press conference at Mar a Lago, in which he discussed the weaponization of the DoJ, & the Biden administration, & that Trump, everybody agreed, that the energy given in that Mar a Lago speech, was Trump. That was the lion on the Serengeti, right…everyone's seen the video of, ah, the Christopher Walken commentary, with Donald Trump.
That 10 day span, to me…if anybody has not seen that, I'll have to post it on my TruthSocial, but, you've probably seen it, right Kyle…yeah, Christopher Walken narration, where it's talking about the hyenas, & the jackals, & they come around, they think the King's tired, & weak.
But, every now & again, the lion has to show everybody who he is.
And, that 10 day span was that for me.
Trump baited out the announcement. It was a weird time to do it, he was somber. It was the night before, ahm, we "lost" in the midterms, we lost…we didn't win the Senate, right… And, it was considered a big…it was spun as a big defeat, even though Trump candidates won like 96% of their races, whatever it was.
And, even though people like me, at the time, got flamed for saying that we need to lose the Senate -- I remember when we talked about that -- I said, I think we need to lose the Senate, because the Senate needs to take a lot of blame over the next two years -- which they are -- but…I know this is a long point -- in hindsight, with the benefit of hindsight…because, at that time, Trump announced, the Mar a Lago raid, he was the old Trump again -- the next day, Elon reactivates his Twitter account.
I'm not even talking about this through the lens of Trump having a Twitter account is important.
What I'm saying is, if you look at the story -- the story of Elon Musk activating Donald Trump's Twitter account, that Trump has yet to Tweet from -- was a mass, American, cultural event.
Just the idea that Donald Trump would be able to say things on Twitter, again, got the entire world, to talk for a week, about what he was gonna say.
What that did, was it showed all of those swamp creatures, how powerful Donald Trump, not only still was, but, that his power, like Palpatine, or like Obi-Wan Kenobi, if they struck him down after 2020, he would return stronger, more powerful, than he had ever been before.
And, by activating that Twitter account, Elon Musk allowed Trump to show everybody in the world, that he is still the lion, he's still the King, & now, in hindsight, to tie this into DeSantis, I think, that the DeSantis deployment, in May of 2023, whether it was our op, or theirs, was absolutely known by Donald Trump, & that the hint of that, is him announcing in November. That's what I now tie it back to.
Because when we look at like, even for Republicans & MAGA people, it was strange timing. It was weird timing to announce that early. Um, kind of in a random spot, too, right in the middle of the midterms. Some saw it as Trump trying to obfuscate from what seemed like a loss, an optical loss, & trying to distract from it.
Applying hindsight to that idea, which at the time -- we're getting better at this, we're getting better at saying, We don't know what this is bait for, but we think it's bait.
And, at the time I thought it was bait for Con, Inc., I still believe that. But, now, with the benefit of hindsight, I think that this was the rug pull. Trump was rug pulling the establishment, & saying, I'm the candidate, now. I beat you to the starting line.
So, he started the race before they did. And, it can map onto either scenerio. It can map onto patriots are deploying the DeSantis announcement, & that Trump knew it, & it's all part of the game.
Or, even if it is a deep state establishment deployment, Trump rug pulled them, & undercut them. He undercut them by announcing his own candidacy, 6 months in advance. He's got 6 months of headlines & momentum. And then, for the last 3 months or so, he's been hammering DeSantis, & what that looks to me like -- which you've said this, you referenced this a few minutes ago -- it looks exactly like the 2020 election cycle, where he was hammering Joe Biden & baiting him in, & baiting the deployment.
And, I'm one of those silly…silly fools who thinks that there's a lot more control going on with the Biden administration than most, if for no other reason than I believe that the deep state is not as dumb as we think they are.
I think that it would have been obvious that Trump was baiting Biden, & that it also should have been obvious to him that he was a horrible, horrible candidate, & a horrible idea (Editor's note: NEVER! He loves himself too much.), & they went with him anyway.
Which, to me, reeks of them having their hands tied, & I think the same thing could be going on, here.
They either have their hands tied, because DeSantis is all they have, or, they have their hands tied because DeSantis is our op. (*Editor's note: I'll take door #2. J)
So, that's my long winded way of saying I think the midterms ties into this. I think that Trump seeded the midterms.
JUST HUMAN: 1.58.37
I think so, too. Yeah, & I think, I think you've just made the best case for that that I've ever heard. And, it makes, like you said, in hindsight, like right now looking back at it, it makes even more sense that that was his reasoning.
I have to add in, though, what I have said since it happened, that Trump announced then in order to force Merrick Garland to appoint a Special Council, um, to oversee his docs case. Because…
BURNING BRIGHT: 1.59.00
Right. It could be many different objectives.
JUST HUMAN: 1.59.01
Merrick Garland, in his announcement of a Special Council being appointed, said that's why. He said, I have to appoint this Special Council because Donald Trump has now declared he's running for President, very likely gonna be running against my boss, the current President, therefore, it's appropriate for me under the guidelines of DoJ to now appoint a Special Council.
Merrick Garland had to appoint a Special Council. Which tells you that Trump wanted a Special Council. And, he wanted it because he knew that a few months later, Joe Biden would be in his own document scandal, & Merrick Garland would then have to appoint a Special Council, then.
And, what happened in between…the media did all these victory laps, & were clapping each other on the back, & like, talking about how Trump's got a Special Council, he's gonna investigate this & that, it's so terrible to have documents the way he had them. The media spent months building up those narratives, only to have them all turn around, & smack them in the face, when the same, exact situation became real for Joe Biden, & worse. Like, Joe Biden has so many more documents scattered, & in so many more places, all of them unsecured, except for his house that's guarded by Secret Service. But, those ones were in the garage, next to a vehicle.
So, like, total narrative seed moment. Trump abso…it's one of my favorite things that Trump has done, because it just demonstrates his control, of everything going on, if…if you can defect from all the narratives in the fake news, & pull back & look at it, & watch the cause & effect that played out, you're like, OH! Trump totally set everything up.
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.00.38
That's when I started writing the Master series, was that month, because, it was like, we've talked about Trump being a master of narrative, that's not a new thing, that's not a thing that I coined, or anybody else coined, but, ah…that was the…that was the first of like, Trump deployment that I felt like we could see it happening in real time. We could see, like, this is a strange move. But, Donald Trump doesn't do anything without there being a reason.
And then, the Twitter deployment afterwards, that gave me the…besides Musk with the DoD contract, which is the biggest actual bit of ah…of ah…white hat, um, mapping, for Elon Musk -- the biggest narrative mapping, or circumstantial map, for me, if the Twitter deployment & the timing of it. The fact that that was the, oh, get back into your hermit shells, ah, Con Inc., & everybody else in the media, & to your point about Garland, ah, couple things: So, JadeTree (?) in the chat just pointed out --ah…great, great call out -- Trump coined the term DeSanctimoneous heading into the midterms. It was the first time he had refered to Ron DeSantis as DeSanctimoneous.
JUST HUMAN: 2.01.41
That's right. I knew it was around that time.
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.01.44
It was in that same window -- which, he wasn't even in the media cycle, so why the hell was that, right?
It's like…it looked like…it looked like a…a…rug pull, a good rug pull, of saying, DeSanctimoneous, like here's the…again, this maps onto either side of DeSantis', ours, or theirs -- let's say he's theirs, let's play it straight -- he's saying, I know what you guys are doing, but, I'm MAGA, I am MAGA, & I'm gonna show you, & Elon's gonna show you, over the next 10 days -- Elon helped with that mass deployment.
The other point that you just brought up, Garland, I'm glad you brought that up -- you & I, ah…you, you more so, but I kinda…I don't know if you still feel this way, but, we've talked about the idea of a narrative shielding, so, take a drink for that -- it's one of my favorite terms -- it's the one that I see going so many different ways.
You & I have talked about, ah -- narrative shielding does not always apply to just people, or figures. It can apply to institutions. And, we've talked about how beneficial it could be if justice phases, or justice deployments, are happening, ostensibly, under administrations, ah, that are affected by those deployments, right…that that's good narrative shielding for the DoJ in a good way.
Um, what's interesting is that, you can also map Donald Trump's bait, there, of ah…the announcement, with Garland -- you can map that a couple ways. You can say, okay, let's say Garland is the deep state, shill, Biden admin, war monger that we think he is. Donald Trump baited him, to your point, he…he…or, he put him in a corner. He forced him to appoint that Special Council by becoming a political candidate.
Here's the other way to look at that: Let's say, for the sake of argument, Garland isn't as much their guy, as they want him to be. Donald Trump gave him narrative shielding to appoint that Special Council. Because, Garland is able to go into that -- remember, these puppet strings work all ways, & sometimes when we use -- that's why I try to get away from white hat/black hat -- a guy like Merrick Garland -- let's just…as an example…could be a bad guy, & have done things on behalf of criminal administrations, AND, still be working on behalf of patriots, because it is in his own self interest to do so. That, this is something that I think too many people on our side go, 'Buddy, he's bad! And, it's not kayfabe!' Okay, you don't even have to play with kayfabe, don't even -- if it bothers you, the idea of fake feuds, don't even engage with it that way.
If you believe that Merrick Garland is a bad guy, control goes both ways. Don't bad guys wanna save their own skin? Can't some bad guys be smarter than other bad guys? Can't some turn evidence, right? So, this, to me, that deployment also gave Garland…he could walk into the deep state den of vipers & say, 'I had to do it, guys! He announced his candidacy, I had to do it!'
And, those are my favorite deployments. Like, I always say, my favorite ones have been happening in rapid fire since the midterms. Which is that, either way you map them, from Garland Special Council, to Trump's candidacy, to Elon Musk, to Ron DeSantis now. Whether DeSantis is our guy, or their guy, Donald Trump wants, absolutely, observably wants this deployment to be happening. Which is the most encouraging thing here.
He didn't spend six months baiting this deployment out, because he thinks it's going to ruin his chances, right? Or, ruin our movement.
That's kinda the most encouraging way to look at it. He didn't bait Joe Biden in 2020 because he didn't want to see the Presidency, & undergo this operation that I believe we're still in the midst of. It's sort of a net effects thing.
JUST HUMAN: 2.05.33
Yep. (chuckles) It makes me laugh -- yeah, it's a net effects thing. It's like…yeah, it just makes more sense to me…
I want to know, how, um…let's just give everybody an opportunity, in case you didn't save your Bingo card at the beginning.
Have we got a Bingo, yet? I'm not sure. We've got a 'maps onto'. We haven't had a 'slippergate', or a 'limited hangout'.
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.06.02
No, 'slippergate's over. We need an updated…ah…'limited hangout'…yeah, we, ya know, I don't think we have a Bingo. We've got 'system of systems', 'bicameral', 'kayfabe', ha, there should be many, 'narrative seeding',
JUST HUMAN: 2.06.16
'what I like to call', we've had that…we, if we said 'limited hangout',
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.06.20
'collective mind' we've said.
JUST HUMAN: 2.06.23
If we said 'limited hangout', there might've been…might've been…
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.06.26
I don't think there's a Bingo, yet.
JUST HUMAN: 2.06.28
Don't think there's a Bingo, yet.
Alright, I wanna, um…I think we've reached the end of our kayfabe/DeSantis discussion. I did remember there was another thing I put on the kayfabe side. Which is, there was a day, not too long ago, where, Trump was really going at DeSantis. And, it was -- even I was like, Oh, wow, that's kinda ugly, the things he was saying. And, that same day, Jenna Ellis posted a picture of her & Ron DeSantis together, at Trump's Doral Golf Course.
And, I was thinking, okay, Trump's on TruthSocial saying all these mean things about DeSantis, while DeSantis is literally at his golf course.
And, I just feel like, that's a bit of a tell. Like, I feel like, if there was really a feud between them -- like, if, if Trump…if I was running for President, & Trump was saying the things about me, that he's saying about DeSantis, & it wasn't kayfabe, I wouldn't be going to his golf course.
So, um, it's a small things, but it's like, ummm, I think that was a bit of a tell.
Alright…
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.07.31
I actually have something that people in the chat are calling for their death blossom to get their Bingo -- I actually can give you to this, with one more point on the DeSantis kayfabe stuff, or not even kayfabe…ah…um, but, I actually did wanna hit on this -
One of the things I'd written about, my sorta like unifying conclusion with all this stuff, is that, the establishment, however you want to define the establishment, is currently caught in the death blossom. That is the term I used, & there are death spiral, because, whether…let's say, for the sake of argument, Ron DeSantis is their guy, okay, look at how much ground the establishment has lost in the collective mind of American society, where their best chance to get us, is to put forward a fake MAGA candidate, who says all of the things that this community wants to hear. His rhetoric is strong on borders, it's fiercely anti-woke, it's pro-nationalism, it's anti-illegal immigration, it's anti-IRS, he's publicly saying he wants to abolish the IRS. He wants to regulate the central banks -- that's what he's saying, whether or not he does these things.
If this…worst case scenario, here, the establishment is pushing a guy who's saying he wants to destroy globalism, get back to nationalism, on-shore everything, get state's rights back from the Federal government, & that their genius plan is to get him into the White House, & for him to just not do any of it.
What that…what that proves to you is that, if that's the case, the establishment now knows that they can't even pretend a non-MAGA candidate can run for President.
They now know that Joe Biden & the establishment…they're dead in the water.
They have no social capital, they have no political capital, their only chance is to create a fake caricature of Donald Trump, & try to lead us in through a Judas goat.
So, that is a positive thing.
JUST HUMAN: 2.10.01
That's a great point. Um, if you're thinking into the future, how this primary goes, DeSantis is gonna have to continuously run towards Trump, & be more & more MAGA to try & get votes from Trump.
And, I saw some leaked recording that was saying the DeSantis campaign team was talking about, how, after he wins the primary, he'll move to the middle, & go soft on abortion, & other things to try & get some of the middle votes, & whatnot. And, that, to me, backs up that point, DeSantis is gonna have to run towards Trump in the primaries, to have any chance at all. But, it's just gonna look like imitating Trump, & at the same time, it's gonna turn off his GOP establishment donors. Which is why his campaign is having these conference calls, saying, 'Look, once we win this thing, we're gonna moderate a little bit, & not be so crazy right wing, okay? Give us your money.'
Um…the way I see it playing out is that, after Trump wins the primary, DeSantis is gonna endorse him.
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.11.05
It's the acknowledgement that they're pushing of him, the establishment pushing of DeSantis, even if he's bad…
JUST HUMAN: 2.11.10
It's an acknowledgment that they've lost the party.
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.11.12
It's the acknowledgement of where this Country is at, as a ah…as a vast majority, where American cultural identity currently is, anti-woke, anti-internationalism, sorry, anti-globalism, & ah…& ah…& strong…it's nationalists.
The national sentiment is nationalism & anti-woke. And, that's what…they are admitting this.
JUST HUMAN: 2.11.39
And, you know, back to the question I posed to everybody, towards the, um, or about an hour ago, you know, just think about how DeSantis became a hero to us. Was it a psyop on us by the establishment & their media, Con. Inc., to make us like him so much, because they plan on him taking Trump down in the primary -- let's just…just go with that -- ask yourself, what made DeSantis this hero to MAGA over the past several years, & then all of that's being undone right now. All that's being destroyed right now.
Alright…what could bring him back? Is there a way for DeSantis to become that hero, again?
Well, one way that I can think of is for him to take all the GOP establishment's money, & political clout, & trick them into funding his campaign, that ultimately ends up red pilling the MAGA base, er, like, MAGA voters during the primaries, & then him turning around & endorsing Trump, & campaigning for Trump, in 2024.
Like, I think that we would ah…I think…I think we would pretty quickly, you know, forget all these accusations against him that Trump has made. You know, um…yeah, we'll see…
I do wanna move on from this topic. I think we've, ah, I think we've pretty well fleshed it out, I hope people enjoyed it. I think chat did.
I…I…we can't run a poll over here, I wish that Rumble did have that feature, to run a poll. But, let's do a really unscientific poll. And, if you think it's kayfabe, then put "yes" in chat. If you think it's not kayfabe, then put "no" in chat.
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.13.20
I'll count "yeses", you count "nos".
JUST HUMAN: 2.13.22
I don't know if I can do that. I'll try.
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.13.24
Alright.
JUST HUMAN: 2.13.25
Okay, so yeah, "yes" for kayfabe, "no" for not kayfabe. Type it in chat, we're just gonna see what we got. (*Waiting…waiting…reading…counting…)
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.13.41
I already stopped.
JUST HUMAN: 2.13.42
(*Chuckles at ensuing results…)
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.13.44
"yes" won.
JUST HUMAN: 2.13.46
Yeah…(*Laughing…)
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.13.47
I would say by a factor of around…80%...? Maybe even more…???
JUST HUMAN: 2.13.56
I mean, it's overwhelming.
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.14.00
Probably 4 out of 5, or so.
JUST HUMAN: 2.14.01
This is definitely our core audience. Our core audience has shown up tonight, to make sure & vote "yes".
BURNING BRIGHT: 2.14.10
And, famous last words, famous BB "just one more thing…", but, you know, I saw people, ah, like we had been talking to Chris Paul about this kinda stuff, as well, & um, well you just mentioned about, if it's an enemy op, & the move is to pretend to be MAGA, & then once you get in, to go moderate, & more establishment, okay, well, again, that -- to use the Tony Stark meme -- not a great plan.
Like, your plan is to just…your plan now is to just rug pull openly. It's not to…their plan used to be…& I know that people think…some people think like the establishment, the deep state, has always just been tryna rug pull people, right…which, that's partly true. But, I would, I would slightly disagree with that. And, by that I mean, they've always just tryna trick everybody -- yes, they've always used deception, but, I think that there's a subtle difference. Once subtle difference is, they have genuinely tried to program American society to adopt their world view. Right? They have tried to get us to adopt globalism, the LGBTQ woke agenda, multiculturalism, I'm not saying that that's necessarily bad, but the way that they talk about it, right -- affirmative action, equality of outcome, rather than equality of opportunity.
They've tried to program us -- they haven't tried to trick us -- they've tried to trick us into adopting their ideologies. What this kind of deployment with DeSantis would demonstrate, is that, they know that they can't do that. They've lost that. Their only chance, now, is to appeal to what we actually want, & to tell us that what we want is a good thing, & then to literally not do it. That's where they're at, now.
I mean…& it doesn't seem like a winning proposition to govern a nation of three hundred plus people, tell them everything that they want to hear, & then demonstrably not do all of those things once you get into office.
It's a los…long term, it's a losing proposition.
JUST HUMAN: 2.16.23
Yeah…their…yeah…I hundred percent agree.
/End.
Just for laughs…